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Mike does offer a fine point about the focal plane shutter, but there =
shouldn't be a rush to condemn it.  Think "barrel Lens" before you =
decide.    They're usually cheaper (they're lenses without shutters for =
those who wonder), easier to adapt and can yield some interesting =
results.  I have several smaller Protars that live on the front of my =
4x5 Pacemaker Speed.
    Also, unless you're committed to rollfilm, you can save a buck or =
two by getting a non-Grafloc back on a Speed or Crown.  BUT, my own =
personal favorite is a Super Speed as there are movements if you want, =
revolving back, very rigid construction.  Stephen Gandy's site =
http://cameraquest.com/ has a very in-depth review and comparison to =
Linhof Technikas.  The Graphics are a wonderfully stout and useable =
bunch of cameras.  Try one, you'll love it.
Eve

  Jonathan,
  I got a Crown Graphic 2x3 a few months ago (wanted to stay with 120 =
film) -- and what got me started was the discussion on this list about =
the coated Ektar lenses. Having shot a few ;) roles of film with it, I =
can confirm that that's one great lens (at f11 and smaller -- for =
landscapes). The main difference between the Crown Graphic and the Speed =
Graphic is that the latter also has a focal plane shutter (which adds =
weight, and probably something else that can break on a 50+ year old =
camera). The Crown Graphic (only) has the leaf shutter on the lens.
  Mike
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Jonathan Prescott=20
    To: rollei=20
    Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 10:08 PM
    Subject: [Rollei] OT: Crown Graphic recommendation


    I'm finding myself doing quite a bit of 4x5 portraiture and I'm =
tired of lugging a Linhof Kardan around, so I'm thinking about picking =
up a Crown Graphic.  With so many years of wisdom represented on this =
list, I though I'd fish for some recommendations about what to get.  If =
anyone can help me determine which model, which features, and most =
importantly, which lens, I'd be grateful.



    Thanks,



    Jonathan Prescott



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<DIV>Mike does offer a fine point about the focal plane shutter, but =
there=20
shouldn't be a rush to condemn it.&nbsp; Think "barrel Lens" before you=20
decide.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; They're usually cheaper (they're lenses =
without=20
shutters for those who wonder), easier to adapt and can yield some =
interesting=20
results.&nbsp; I have several smaller Protars that live on the front of =
my 4x5=20
Pacemaker Speed.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Also, unless you're committed to rollfilm, you =
can save=20
a buck or two by getting a non-Grafloc back on a Speed or Crown.&nbsp; =
BUT, my=20
own personal favorite is a Super Speed as there are movements if you =
want,=20
revolving back, very rigid construction.&nbsp; Stephen Gandy's site <A=20
href=3D"http://cameraquest.com/";>http://cameraquest.com/</A>&nbsp;has a =
very=20
in-depth review and comparison to Linhof Technikas.&nbsp; The Graphics =
are a=20
wonderfully stout and useable bunch of cameras.&nbsp; Try one, you'll =
love=20
it.</DIV>
<DIV>Eve<BR></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jonathan,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I got a Crown Graphic 2x3 a few =
months ago=20
  (wanted to stay with 120 film) -- and what got me started was the =
discussion=20
  on this list about the coated Ektar lenses. Having shot a few ;) roles =
of film=20
  with it, I can confirm that&nbsp;that's one great lens (at f11 and =
smaller --=20
  for landscapes). The main difference between the Crown Graphic and the =
Speed=20
  Graphic is that the latter also has a focal plane shutter (which adds =
weight,=20
  and probably something else that can break on a 50+ year old camera). =
The=20
  Crown Graphic (only) has the&nbsp;leaf shutter on the =
lens.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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    <A title=3Djon   =
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    Prescott</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
    title=3Drollei  20
    href=3D"mailto:rollei  >rollei</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 03, =
2002 10:08=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Rollei] OT: Crown =
Graphic=20
    recommendation</DIV>
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I=92m finding myself =
doing quite a=20
    bit of 4x5 portraiture and I=92m tired of lugging a Linhof Kardan =
around, so=20
    I=92m thinking about picking up a Crown Graphic.&nbsp; With so many =
years of=20
    wisdom represented on this list, I though I=92d fish for some =
recommendations=20
    about what to get.&nbsp; If anyone can help me determine which =
model, which=20
    features, and most importantly, which lens, I=92d be=20
    grateful.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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